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clippedwolf wrote:The biggest killer in a thermo-nuclear war would be nuclear winter.
Drool wrote:clippedwolf wrote:The biggest killer in a thermo-nuclear war would be nuclear winter.
No, it would be devastating weapons going off in population centers with millions of people in them. Nuclear Winter is a largely discredited theory; the effects promoted by Carl Sagan et al are believed to have been grossly overstated.
clippedwolf wrote:Overstated but not irrelevant. Volcanic eruptions have spewed ash into the sky and created short term global climate changes. Estimates on global cooling after a nuke war go from a few days to the likely exaggerated few years, but the shortening of a single growing season could have big effects.
clippedwolf wrote: and the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station also in California. High levels of iodizing radiation there could cause health damage or death from short term exposure.
clippedwolf wrote:Going back to radiation, most of it would have been gone by the time the game comes around. To get dangerous amounts of radiation a person would need to stay in an irradiated place close to a ground zero for weeks in order to possibly get sick.
The exemptions would be the nuclear power plants which would no doubt be targets of nuclear strikes themselves. The three most dangerous places in the Wasteland map, in terms of radiation, would be the Palo Verde power plant in Arizona, Diablo Canyon power plant in California, and the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station also in California. High levels of iodizing radiation there could cause health damage or death from short term exposure.
Woolfe wrote:But I can't recall how extensive the radiation was? PaulT or anyone recall offhand?
Drool wrote:Woolfe wrote:But I can't recall how extensive the radiation was? PaulT or anyone recall offhand?
Not very. There was a ring of radiation around the southern entrance to Darwin, loose radiation in and around the nuclear dump and Temple of Blood in Needles, radiation could leak from the reactor in the Mushroom Cloud Temple if you turned off the coolant, and there was a radioactive sludge pit in Base Cochise. I think that was it.
Oh, if you killed Rad Angels in the Mushroom Cloud Temple, they'd turn into piles of radioactive dust. Also, on of the techies in the temple would drop a "nuke grenade" if you stepped on his tile after killing him.
The edges of the overland map didn't specifically mention radiation when you tried to go past the boundaries, just that you saw "miles and miles of endless wasteland," which could mean anything from a radioactive wasteland to just impassable desert. Judging by the lack of Geiger counter clicking, I always assumed they more meant desert than radiation.
Drool wrote:The radiation around the Temple of Blood never made much sense to me, I'm not sure why it was there.
The belt around Darwin feels meta.
Climate of California wrote:In the Los Angeles area, however, the Basin is almost completely enclosed by mountains on the north and east. Coupled with this is a characteristic of the air along most of the coastal area of California. The vertical temperature structure (inversion) tends to prevent vertical mixing of the air through more than a shallow layer (1,000 to 2,000 feet deep). The geographical configuration and the southerly location of the Basin permit a fairly regular daily reversal of wind direction—offshore at night and onshore during the day. With the concentrated population and industry, pollution products tend to accumulate and remain within this circulation pattern.
clippedwolf wrote:Those mushroom clouds go miles into the sky, and a lot of radioactive material is in there. And of course half-life of the radioactive materials
Pop trivia time: What is the biggest danger of depleted uranium? Is it:
a: Alpha particle radiation poisoning
b: Beta particle radiation poisoning
c: Gamma particle radiation poisoning
d: Neutron radiation
e: Heavy metal poisoning
f: If it's moving at you at a high rate of speed, it is also very hard
Hint: it's not radiation
My point is a destroyed city might have other poisons in the air besides radiation. Trampling around in the ruins might kick up toxic ash and dust. Just postulating here.
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