I want a consequent game

[Eikant]

Hej there, Rangers.

So...I think, that Fargo and his gang will do everything right, but I just want to say something about my latest thoughts.
I hope it will be a game for adults. I hope it will be a consequent game. What does that mean for me?
The setting is post apocalyptic...brutal, hard, deadly. If there are locations with law and government, ok...but there sure will be people, who are eating human flesh, dealing or consuming drugs, killing children...so on, so on.

Fallout 2 had these elements...I could kill everybody, even kids...towns were full with drug addicts, everywhere it was so dark and hopeless...I don't want it in, because I love doing this things, but that helps making a hopeless atmosphere.
I don't want a game, where I can annihilate a town with an A-Bomb, but don't be allowed to have sex or kill children (besides two kids lived in that town...)...or characters, which were undying...wtf??? Mass media game...

I believe that the old Fallout Veterans know what I mean. What do you think of it?

[TΛPETRVE]

I don't want a game, where I can annihilate a town with an A-Bomb, but don't be allowed to have sex or kill children (besides two kids lived in that town...)

Unnecessary gimmick that adds nothing to the game, if not done properly. Fallout gave you the opportunity to recruit a pawn by seducing (and consequently banging) her/him, and that's absolutely fine. Now if you just want to fuck everything in-game for the sake of "because I can", then I suggest you either play Second Life, or start a real-life career as a porn star or serial rapist .

[suz]

Well, then inxile could do it properly?
I think Miss Kitty and Corsican Brothers that drug dealer who I can't remember, all the junkies and prostitutes improved the environment of New Reno a lot, more so than the random gang bosses squabbling.

[Eikant]

Hahahahaha...no, in that case I am playing The Witcher
Ok, now I think some people don't get, what I am trying to say.
I don't want to fuck all around, but I just want to have the possibilties to make such funny things, just for the atmosphere. I want to have the feeling, that I can do, whatever I want. I want the feeling, to be free in my decisions...thats all about it.

And I think its some kind of false morale, that I can play atomic Holocaust, but don't have the possibilities to do other things...its Endtime and I want it realistic as possible.

Now everything clear?

[Cascade]

Why does everybody seem to want to kill children

I mean I agree with the sentiment of it being brutal and deadly, etc, but it's like the no.1 example that keeps popping up.
I guess I am asking, what's wrong with you guys?

[TΛPETRVE]

Then let's rephrase: We want children to be mortal, just like every other inhabitant of the wasteland.

Taking again an example from Jagged Alliance 2 (which got me into heated discussions already when I brought it up in combat-related topics ): In JA2, you take on a recon mission where you stumble upon an enemy compound, which turns out a sweat shop where children (actual kids around the age of 10, not 14-year-old teenagers) are forced to mass-produce cheap clothes. Of course, as the area is guarded, a shootout flares up. Both the kids and the sweat shop's overseer (an unarmed woman, mind you) are taking cover under the tables, but there's still a high chance to get them caught in the crossfire, and of course they die when shot. You might easily massacre a whole of 20 kids in that scene, be it out of negligence, or even willfully.

(What makes JA2 even stronger stuff in that regard that you are allowed to use mustard gas grenades, which is among the most devious and sadistic weaponry ever invented by man. And yes, should you get ahold of a mustard gas grenade at this early point in the game, you could easily throw one into that scene mentioned above and just watch how both the enemy soldiers and the kids go wincing on the floor.)

[Eikant]

Thanx a lot for the JA example.

I am asking:" Why it is so hard to discuss about themes like Sex, drugs and the mortality of every being? In Fallout 2 it was possible, so why not now??? Go out there and shoot a child. It won't stand up after a while and you have to deal with every consequence.
I don't want to play such characters and have no negative consequences on acting in rampage mode. I clearly want some negative points for my char, if he is doing cruel things like that.