Signal wrote:Seriously, though: A lot of gamers have this sense of entitlement mentality that leads them to believe that any time a developer gets any kind of money to create a game, it's greed. Developers must work on these projects that last more than a year while taking absolutely no payment, you know. It's only fair. Anything else is being greedy.
What in the who in the where now?
The developers should be paid. I'm a developer, and I get paid, why shouldn't they? But this "Linux, Windows, MacOS X, pick ONE" business is pretty damn arbitrary. I mean, I have the game, lets say I picked Windows, why can't I play it on Linux? There's a perfectly fine Linux right over there! It's working! It's funded! Whaddya mean, I have to buy a whole new copy? It makes no sense! Now I got a Macbook (hey, they're sexy), why can't I play my game on that? Again, there's a Mac version! The developers were paid, in full! I paid, in full! What's the point of the restriction?
It feels like we're being nickled and dimed for a completely arbitrary reason. Steam does it right, with SteamPlay (that doesn't include Linux, but Steam doesn't include Linux either). The Humble Bundle does it right. Bioware used to do it right. id does it right. Epic does it right. If a game supports an OS, you should be able to play it on that OS.
What if instead of splitting the copies by OS, they'd split them by something else? Lets say, graphics cards. AMD or nVidia, pick one. Writing graphics code isn't easy, y'know, and each of those expose different extensions. And you'd obviously have to test on each one. Makes absolute sense. Well, no, it's a completely arbitrary dichotomy and you'd be rightly outraged.
aaronjg77 wrote:Dude it's not thier decision. It has to do with the way the media is distributed. If you choose to get it through steam, then you should be able to play it on Win or Mac with the same code. Unfortunatly it wouldn't cover Linux. It has to do with the distribution media.
Humble Bundle made it work just fine. Hell, NWN and UT2004 just let everyone download the Linux executables for free, it's not like they're worth much without the textures, audio, etc... y'know, the game.
Brigand231 wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, noose. You've already informed us of your cancellation, right. What more are you hoping to gain? Having withdrawn your pledge you are now a guest in "our" house. You first asked for clarification on the issue then, without receiving an answer, rendered your judgement... I'll repeat that for emphasis, the question was asked if the line between OS's could be done away with - allow time for someone who CAN answer that to answer it. Yes, the deadline is drawing near, but the question was asked very late in the game. I'm not up for debating whether the claim is valid or not, I'm asking why it was suddenly the all-important claim at this exact moment instead of being an important and deciding claim from the beginning?
Fine, argue with me then. I'm still pledging for international reward. I also won't be withdrawing my pledge, since by giving me two "copies", one for Windows and one for Linux, I get to play the game on all the OSes that I happen to use. It's still stupid though.
The reason this all-important claim was brought up right now is because it wasn't at all clear that this was the intention before. Yes, the reward did read "Digital Downloadable copy of game DRM free for PC or
MAC OSX or
Linux." (emphasis mine), but I read that "or" as an inclusive
or. Because that's what previous indie developers (indie in the sense of not being tied to a major publisher, which is exactly what we have here) I bought games from meant by "PC or Mac OS X or Linux".
Only with this update, where we were informed that getting 2 copies of the game is a solution to the problem of getting a version for only one OS did I (and apparently noose) realize that we're only getting a version for a single OS
.Edits: Speiling, as well Grammar.