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POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

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As funding increases, where else should we focus development?

Poll ended at April 14th, 2012, 9:47 am

- Larger world and more content
1456
24%
- Expanded character dialog and voice acting
676
11%
- Expanded audio, but NOT voice acting
564
9%
- Enhanced graphics and 3D models/textures
755
13%
- Enhanced NPC portraits and equipment artwork
907
15%
- Porting to mobile (iOS and/or Android)
125
2%
- Enhanced special effects (explosions, etc)
445
7%
- Create an old school 8-bit version
98
2%
- Mod kit
835
14%
- Other mediums (card games, board games, pen & paper RPG, collectibles)
83
1%
 
Total votes : 5944


Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Lulu58e2 » April 10th, 2012, 2:15 pm

I'd put all five votes on bigger world & more content: I'd like to see a ton of variety; procedurally generated and evolving if possible.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Madball357 » April 10th, 2012, 2:41 pm

kevinstan wrote:I would like to support more voice acting. A number of RPGs I played recently had terrible voice acting and I just dropped the game after 30 minutes. I don't know if the people that are against voice acting just want a text game or what. I'm assuming they played the original and don't care about advancing to a more modern submission.

Mass Effect 2 and 3 have been, hands down, the greatest role playing games I have consumed. The voice acting is what carried them, along with great writing which goes hand-in-hand with the voice-overs.

Immersive RPGs have all but replaced movies, much like the "talkies" replaced silent films and color replaced black and white. The quickest way to yank a player back from immersion is to screw up the cheapest resource - good writing. Follow that up with crowd sourced voice acting and you should be able to easily enhance the resolution of the experience.


First off, the ME games aren't more RPGs than, say, the Grand Theft Auto series.

The writing is just awful. I guess you haven't heard of Planescape Torment, or god forbid, a book.

Voice acting in videogames is almost always pretty bad (nightmarish flashes from Oblivion come to mind), but what's most important, it's so expensive that it severely limits the writing quality, quantity and freedom you can have by sticking to text-only. But being a new-generation gamer I don't expect you to understand any of that.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Sobboth » April 11th, 2012, 5:09 am

kevinstan wrote:Mass Effect 2 and 3 have been, hands down, the greatest role playing games I have consumed. The voice acting is what carried them, along with great writing which goes hand-in-hand with the voice-overs.

You are posting on the wrong thread, wrong forum and wrong site IMHO
The only VA we really need is for the cheap but efficient/immersive intro and endind slideshow (which don't even need to be animated).
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Jotun » April 11th, 2012, 6:47 am

Sobboth wrote:You are posting on the wrong thread, wrong forum and wrong site IMHO
The only VA we really need is for the cheap but efficient/immersive intro and endind slideshow (which don't even need to be animated).


There was also some voice acting in Planescape : Torment and even more in Baldur's Gate II... and those games were great ! I really think the most important NPC should have a voice but NOT the PCs (just like in Fallout, BG and Planescape) ! ;)
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Juez » April 11th, 2012, 8:00 pm

First, sorry for my english.

As long as you put more voices no effect on the quality and the rest of the game content would not be a problem, but to bring more voices we have to cut some of the rest is better not to put more voices and make it like Fallout, Baldur's Gate or Arcanum.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Crinkles » April 12th, 2012, 10:48 am

Madball357 wrote:
kevinstan wrote:I would like to support more voice acting. A number of RPGs I played recently had terrible voice acting and I just dropped the game after 30 minutes. I don't know if the people that are against voice acting just want a text game or what. I'm assuming they played the original and don't care about advancing to a more modern submission.

Mass Effect 2 and 3 have been, hands down, the greatest role playing games I have consumed. The voice acting is what carried them, along with great writing which goes hand-in-hand with the voice-overs.

Immersive RPGs have all but replaced movies, much like the "talkies" replaced silent films and color replaced black and white. The quickest way to yank a player back from immersion is to screw up the cheapest resource - good writing. Follow that up with crowd sourced voice acting and you should be able to easily enhance the resolution of the experience.


First off, the ME games aren't more RPGs than, say, the Grand Theft Auto series.

The writing is just awful. I guess you haven't heard of Planescape Torment, or god forbid, a book.

Voice acting in videogames is almost always pretty bad (nightmarish flashes from Oblivion come to mind), but what's most important, it's so expensive that it severely limits the writing quality, quantity and freedom you can have by sticking to text-only. But being a new-generation gamer I don't expect you to understand any of that.



I think you're being quite unfair comparing the Mass Effect games to the Grand Theft Auto series. It's hard to take hyperbole like that seriously, and you come off as kinda mean. While the Mass Effect series' gameplay became less RPG-like after the first one, and in story choice they don't compare to many earlier RPGs, as far as modern mainstream RPGs go the series is certainly at the top of genre.

But "modern mainstream RPG" does not describe Wasteland 2; I think most people here prefer a lot of well-written dialog over a limited amount of well-done voice acting, and the whole point is to provide an alternative to the simplified ("consolized") mechanics that are currently in vogue for RPGs. It doesn't have to be one or the other: Mass Effect is good at what it tries to do, and Wasteland 2 will be excellent at its own niche, I'm sure.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Badunius » April 12th, 2012, 3:00 pm

As funding counting down last days, it will be nice to see some specific information about the upcoming game
there's holywars about lots of aspects of the game on this forums
but to this moment I saw one concept art image, not related in any way to the gameplay process
you know, it's kinda intriguing what people are paying for
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby zantaff » April 12th, 2012, 6:18 pm

I'd love if you guys could include a playable version of he original with the digital copies. I can't seem to find a way to get my hands on Wasteland 1!
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby BlackGauntlet » April 13th, 2012, 2:23 am

SXX wrote:
Merphans Sprocket wrote:Гм, но F3 & NV, Skyrim и ещё пара игр недоступны в стиме, если ты указал, что живешь в России.
Whoah but F3 and NV, Skyrim and Civilization 4 +++ wont available in Steam for you, if you checked that you live in Russia while you are doing registration...

Это из за того что русские лохализаторы (1C) выставили бесезде такое условие, т.е забанить игру для покупки альтернативными методами.
Wasteland будет издаваться во всех странах только в виде цифровой версии, а потому таких идиотских ограничений не будет.

I wish there was an option in the poll to link the game to Google Translate. :lol:
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Virus_ST » April 13th, 2012, 3:20 am

How about an unrated version with no censors whatsoever that only backers get to play?
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby void1984 » April 13th, 2012, 4:39 am

Virus_ST wrote:How about an unrated version with no censors whatsoever that only backers get to play?

I am strongly against providing a better game for backers and a worst one to the others.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Brother None » April 13th, 2012, 5:19 am

void1984 wrote:
Virus_ST wrote:How about an unrated version with no censors whatsoever that only backers get to play?
I am strongly against providing a better game for backers and a worst one to the others.


Yeah, won't happen. Everyone gets the same game, only late-comers pay more and don't get the quirky, non-game-balance-impacting skill.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby krellen » April 13th, 2012, 5:47 am

Brother None wrote:
void1984 wrote:
Virus_ST wrote:How about an unrated version with no censors whatsoever that only backers get to play?
I am strongly against providing a better game for backers and a worst one to the others.


Yeah, won't happen. Everyone gets the same game, only late-comers pay more and don't get the quirky, non-game-balance-impacting skill.

Haha, only backers can repair toasters. Suckers! :P
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Voted for Expanded character dialog and voice acting

Postby Blade Runner » April 13th, 2012, 7:06 am

I want to clarify that while I voted for "Expanded character dialog and voice acting" all I really wanted was Expanded Character Dialog, and NOT Voice Acting. I would rather have money, time, and energy put together refining the dialogue and providing more information about the world of Wasteland 2 by scattering letters, books, newspapers (think Deus Ex 1) throughout the game.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby escozzia » April 13th, 2012, 6:23 pm

Really my main wish (since we're obviously getting a "bigger" world) is expanded audio, regardless of voice acting.
If I'm playing some shooter then I don't mind that the audio is silly repetitive and boring, but for this kind of game, what draws me in is the soundscape.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Emmy Lou » April 14th, 2012, 12:34 am

Haha, only backers can repair toasters. Suckers! :P

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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby rezakon » April 14th, 2012, 5:35 am

Vote = Larger World and More Content.

If I had two more votes easily: Expanded audio, but NOT voice acting & Enhanced NPC portraits and equipment artwork.

Enhanced Graphics & 3D models/textures is nice but that mentality is what currently plagues the industry as it has too much focus on eye-candy (higher polygons, higher res textures, dynamic this, that, wateva) and not enough focus on the guts of the game itself. So I'd rather a big, fat game rich in content then a pretty game that's so paper thin even if you made it into a trilogy you could still blow a hole through it.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby krellen » April 14th, 2012, 5:59 am

rezakon wrote:If I had two more votes easily:

You have five votes.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Yutty » April 14th, 2012, 9:43 pm

krellen wrote:
rezakon wrote:If I had two more votes easily:

You have five votes.


good to know haha i original only did one. One vote went into the voice acting one and it'd be cool if they kept it minimum to only important or unique npcs.
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Re: POLL: As funding continues... What's next?!

Postby Drool » April 14th, 2012, 9:59 pm

zantaff wrote:I'd love if you guys could include a playable version of he original with the digital copies. I can't seem to find a way to get my hands on Wasteland 1!

Scroll down a few forums to the What Was Wasteland forum. In there you'll find threads linking to where you can get a copy via abandonware and where you can play it online in a web browser.

Or use google.
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