pomor wrote:How old have you been, when communism collapsed?
I was born in 1988. Which gives me the ability to rationally analyze the past, without bias inherent to living under the particular regime.
So you know communism about that much, as American lefist.
Mandemon wrote:I just want to point out that whatever was called "communism" in USSR and in Eastern Bloc, was not. It was mockery of true communist ideology, as well as socialism in general.
Oh please. Not this tired, old nonsense, again. Sure it has been the true communism, as true as it can get in real life.
Every single one society, calling itself communist, and initially approved by western lefists as the real McCoy, turned out as murdeous regime, often on the scale of genocide.
Western Left at first spotted Real Communism in Soviet Union. When, during the 50s, they could no longer turn the blind eye for Soviet genocide, they have found the Real Communism in China of Mao, then in Yugoslavia of Tito, Cuba of Castro, Romania of Ceausecu, Nicaragua of Ortega... At the end, instead of Haven on Earth, they just found more corpses in pool of blood. True Communism seems be just as evasive as unicorns, honest polititians, and Elvis.
To date, Communism had lways lead to repression and murder. Be it in Europe, Asia, Africa or Latin America. Both in industrial countries, and agrarian ones. In ethnically homogenous nations, and the diverse ones. In ex monarches, former colonies, and ex-democracies. Whatever the starting conditions, Communism was consistently turning up as murderous, criminal regime, regardless of pre existing geographical, historical or cultural conditions. How much more chances Communism is entitled to, still? How many more victims?