Retro 50's style

[Helblind]

Maybe obvious, but avoid the 50's styling of F3. Though stylistic, it always bothered me.

To me, Wasteland had more of an 80's (otherwise known as "the present" at the time ) feel to it.

Judging by the Scorpitron 2.0, it doesn't look like this will be a problem.

[Oerwinde]

The 50s style was one of the things unique to Fallout's setting. I think Wasteland was supposed to be more of a "this is how things went from right now" where Fallout was "this is how things went from back then"

[BluPhenix316]

Yeah, exactly. Fallout 3 and New Vegas continued the Fallout storyline and the fallout storyline was a different time-line then what we are in now where things skewed during the 50s. Fallout was a spiritual successor to Wasteland not a direct successor.

[Vryheid]

Yeah, this has been pretty heavily discussed in other threads. The general consensus is that Wasteland had it's own retro 80s vibe and should be treated as such.

[cah]

I don't think that even the original Fallouts utilized the 50s style. It's something that Bethesda got wrong.

[Drool]

The giant tape-drive computers and 50's stylings all over the place disagree.

[cah]

The giant tape-drive computers and 50's stylings all over the place disagree.

Style and technology go in cycles. E.g. vinyl vs.CD.

[Infinitron]

I don't think that even the original Fallouts utilized the 50s style. It's something that Bethesda got wrong.

They did, but Bethesda definitely turned it up to 11 and made it a more important part of the setting than it was before.

[cah]

They did

LImited to the intros that is. You could as much claim that Fallout was an FPS based on the vault leaving cutscene.

[tuluse]

I don't think that even the original Fallouts utilized the 50s style. It's something that Bethesda got wrong.

I think it was more like Fallout used a satiric look at how people saw the 50s (not how they actually were), while Bethesda dropped the satire and just made a mockery of the 50s.

[Infinitron]

They did

LImited to the intros that is. You could as much claim that Fallout was an FPS based on the vault leaving cutscene.

Well, there were also all those Corvega cars all over the place.

[Gearhead]

Post-Apocalyptic 80's retro.

Just saying it makes me all giddy!

[cah]

Well, there were also all those Corvega cars all over the place.

The new old style. Makes sense in the light of politics and economy there.

[Aldereth]

Post-Apocalyptic 80's retro.

Just saying it makes me all giddy!

I think Gearhead have a point here. The 50s is so far away for the core market that this may make sense : )

[Mandemon]

Well, there were also all those Corvega cars all over the place.

The new old style. Makes sense in the light of politics and economy there.

Holotapes, no computer chips(vacuum tubes are still used, Water Chip is misleading name), nuclear power everywhere, tape computers, robot design, do I need to continue? Fallout had 50's everywhere. Heck, it's perfectly stated that Fallout history diverges from ours in 50's, leading to cultural and technological stagnation, with technological base and culture remaining on 50's.

[cah]

Holotapes, no computer chips(vacuum tubes are still used, Water Chip is misleading name), nuclear power everywhere, tape computers, robot design, do I need to continue? Fallout had 50's everywhere. Heck, it's perfectly stated that Fallout history diverges from ours in 50's, leading to cultural and technological stagnation, with technological base and culture remaining on 50's.

Holotape could be the next incarnation of storage technology;
Vacuum tubes are more likely to survive the EMP associated with nuclear explosion;
Who made you an authority to say that the Water Chip does not include any semiconductors?
That is actually fusion power;
What's wrong with robots?

[Mandemon]

Oh for...

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_world

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Water_chip

Check you info claiming otherwise.

Check holodisk/tape graphics:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Holodisk

It had TAPES in it. That is no way "advanced".

[cah]

Oh for...

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_world

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Water_chip

Check you info claiming otherwise.

Wikipedia is not an authoritative source either especially when dealing with speculation.

Check holodisk/tape graphics:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Holodisk

It had TAPES in it. That is no way "advanced".

When Fallout was released tapes were still widely used for storage purposes. And 4,000 gigabytes is not bad even by today's measure.

[Elandryl]

Come on, cah.

Fallout had 50's design, 50's music, 50's computers,50's black & white TV, 50's commercials.That's even the only reason this thread exists. 50's had this faith in nuclear power as an energy, and this fear about a nuclear power as a weapon. Something very clever to use in a game depicting a post-nuclear age.

Now, I must admit I don't really see the problem with that 50's style. It was actually a very clever graphic design. It immediatly gave the game a style. Instead of having a very clean and light science & fiction aesthetic that you'd already seen a thousand time, you were in a post-nuclear world that already felt old and full of history the first second you came into it. I'm pretty sure Fallout became a instant classic partly because of that fantastic graphic style.

So, no I don't see the problem with Wasteland 2 using that type of atmosphere, instead of wandering in the Star Trek/ Star Wars/ 2001 designs that are no longer alien to anyone.

[Mandemon]

Oh for...

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_world

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Water_chip

Check you info claiming otherwise.

Wikipedia is not an authoritative source either especially when dealing with speculation.

It's Fallout wiki, not Wikipedia.

Check holodisk/tape graphics:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Holodisk

It had TAPES in it. That is no way "advanced".

When Fallout was released tapes were still widely used for storage purposes. And 4,000 gigabytes is not bad even by today's measure.[/quote]

In 1997? By that time floppies were more common and they used disk system. CD-ROMs were becoming a standard, infact Fallout was distributed as a CD-ROM.