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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby paddymaxson » May 21st, 2012, 4:53 am

On the subject of "magic bullets"

Depleted uranium rounds are an existing thing (though not in all calibres...maybe if ammo crafting is in game)
Incendiary rounds are an existing thing (though not in all calibres...maybe if ammo crafting is in game)

I suppose while it's unlikely that acid rounds and electric rounds could exist (the major problem with acid is that it'd probably evaporate off the bullet or burn through the bullet, bullets kind of get engulfed in flame when firing, so coated bullets don't work), there's nothing to say that some kitbashed weapons couldn't deliver an electrical shock at range (tasers already exist), or couldn't spray something caustic

In a world without a geneva convention, there's probably little to stop some inventive minds creating some inventive warcrimes.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby Independent George » May 21st, 2012, 8:12 am

paddymaxson wrote:On the subject of "magic bullets"

Depleted uranium rounds are an existing thing (though not in all calibres...maybe if ammo crafting is in game)
Incendiary rounds are an existing thing (though not in all calibres...maybe if ammo crafting is in game)

I suppose while it's unlikely that acid rounds and electric rounds could exist (the major problem with acid is that it'd probably evaporate off the bullet or burn through the bullet, bullets kind of get engulfed in flame when firing, so coated bullets don't work), there's nothing to say that some kitbashed weapons couldn't deliver an electrical shock at range (tasers already exist), or couldn't spray something caustic

In a world without a geneva convention, there's probably little to stop some inventive minds creating some inventive warcrimes.


But DU is rather expensive, and it's used in larger calibre vehicle-mounted weapons, not individual soldiers. Same for incendiaries (which also tend to cause quite a bit of wear on the barrel, and are meant more for anti-materiel purposes than anti-personnel).

Acid and electric rounds just sound dopey; nobody shoots a person hoping to degrade the armor gradually so the next shot will kill him; you're trying to put a hole in their chest, period. Same for an electrical charge - what's the point of a mild electric shock when you've already perforated a fellow? HP flatten on impact and create larger wound channles, but are easier to stop with armor; AP rounds penetrate armor, but tend to over-penetrate, and do not transfer kinetic energy as well. It's a tradeoff.

The point isn't hard-core realism; the point is some sort of logical consistency grounded in the real world, even if it operates in a science-fiction universe. There comes a point where 'creative' just turns into 'silly'.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby paddymaxson » May 24th, 2012, 5:28 am

Independent George wrote:
But DU is rather expensive, and it's used in larger calibre vehicle-mounted weapons, not individual soldiers. Same for incendiaries (which also tend to cause quite a bit of wear on the barrel, and are meant more for anti-materiel purposes than anti-personnel).

Acid and electric rounds just sound dopey; nobody shoots a person hoping to degrade the armor gradually so the next shot will kill him; you're trying to put a hole in their chest, period. Same for an electrical charge - what's the point of a mild electric shock when you've already perforated a fellow? HP flatten on impact and create larger wound channles, but are easier to stop with armor; AP rounds penetrate armor, but tend to over-penetrate, and do not transfer kinetic energy as well. It's a tradeoff.

The point isn't hard-core realism; the point is some sort of logical consistency grounded in the real world, even if it operates in a science-fiction universe. There comes a point where 'creative' just turns into 'silly'.


Just because it's not common in the real world, doesn't make it impossible in game. I agree Electric rounds are dumb, but a ranged electric shock isn't. Electrical overcharging damages electronics, in a game that features robots, I think you'll find fryng circuit boards to be a viable combat tactic.

As for Depleted Uranium, sure it's expensive in real life, but you're in a nuclear wasteland, I'm sure some inventive types could find a use for irradiated substances in the same way DU rounds are used.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby axeldeath » May 24th, 2012, 5:37 am

You might prefer this game OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAvyj-3PNIE
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby eightbits » June 11th, 2012, 9:33 pm

I'm really not sure how the conversation got into the whole mixing ammo thing, but the original post rocks! Seriously.

I know for some types of weapons this doesn't make much sense. Duct taping to rocket launchers together is a god way to get yourself killed. However, at least being able to duct tape two shotguns together would make some sense on a red neck level (perfect survivors for the wasteland) and provide some fun in-game.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby tuluse » June 12th, 2012, 8:11 am

eightbits wrote:I'm really not sure how the conversation got into the whole mixing ammo thing, but the original post rocks! Seriously.

I know for some types of weapons this doesn't make much sense. Duct taping to rocket launchers together is a god way to get yourself killed. However, at least being able to duct tape two shotguns together would make some sense on a red neck level (perfect survivors for the wasteland) and provide some fun in-game.

It's because the OP edited his first post to where the rest of the thread doesn't make sense anymore.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby MinscAndBoo » June 12th, 2012, 3:18 pm

tuluse wrote:
eightbits wrote:I'm really not sure how the conversation got into the whole mixing ammo thing, but the original post rocks! Seriously.

I know for some types of weapons this doesn't make much sense. Duct taping to rocket launchers together is a god way to get yourself killed. However, at least being able to duct tape two shotguns together would make some sense on a red neck level (perfect survivors for the wasteland) and provide some fun in-game.

It's because the OP edited his first post to where the rest of the thread doesn't make sense anymore.


Because I was sick and tired of everyone hating on me. In fact I'm hoping the thread is deleted.
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Re: Duct tape two guns together.

Postby Woolfe » June 12th, 2012, 3:48 pm

MinscAndBoo wrote:
tuluse wrote:
eightbits wrote:I'm really not sure how the conversation got into the whole mixing ammo thing, but the original post rocks! Seriously.

I know for some types of weapons this doesn't make much sense. Duct taping to rocket launchers together is a god way to get yourself killed. However, at least being able to duct tape two shotguns together would make some sense on a red neck level (perfect survivors for the wasteland) and provide some fun in-game.

It's because the OP edited his first post to where the rest of the thread doesn't make sense anymore.


Because I was sick and tired of everyone hating on me. In fact I'm hoping the thread is deleted.


Its not that we hate you.... Just that original idea. We started off quite reasonably shooting it down due to inappropriateness to the game world. Then of course some angry people got involved, words were said, hearts were broken, the cat walked out on the dog, and despair reigned.... Wait what were we talking about??? ;) :lol:
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