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POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

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If funding exceeds expectations, which other platforms should we develop for in which order?

Poll ended at March 19th, 2012, 12:29 pm

- iPad first, then OSX
64
33%
- OSX first, then iPad
131
67%
 
Total votes : 195


Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby Voight-Kampff » March 14th, 2012, 6:09 pm

What about Windows Phone !?! :o

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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby harborpirate » March 14th, 2012, 6:35 pm

Jozape wrote:The Linux supporters might be happy to know that Fargo has promised a Linux version, if the game reaches 1.5 million in pledges.

https://twitter.com/#!/BrianFargo/status/180081678109245441


Excellent news!

Kickstarting stuff is awesome.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby Magistic » March 15th, 2012, 3:20 am

This is a game I want to play in all it's glory on my 27" and don't really care about an iPad version. I do own one, but I don't want to see any resources or money spend on porting this to a touch device while the work have could gone into making more quests / a bigger world etc.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby sync-oz » March 15th, 2012, 4:36 am

I love gaming on my iPad but I'd prefer the PC version be top notch before any resources were spent on the iPad. But if there was enough love left over, then I'd prefer iPad over osx although I own both. My main desktop is windows though. I find I play hardcore games like BF3 on the desktop, less demanding games like Brogue on my mac laptop, but lately I game a lot on the iPad too it's so convenient to play on. Waking mars is my latest fave there.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby katarn » March 15th, 2012, 5:00 am

mbpopolano24 wrote:Neither. Invest more time and money on the PC, please.

Agree.
Because of consoles, aplle and android devices I can't look at PC games without harm to my eyes because of lots of versions of the same game and less quality of PC's because of ipad's and so on. I need only excellent PC version - that's all. I don't think, that hardcore fans want to get Wasteland 2 with lots of limitations made because of lots of versions exist.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 6:00 am

Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.
Besides, if the goal of this project is to develop a game strong on content and gameplay more than on art, then the iPhone can work as well as a full PC.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby enderandrew » March 15th, 2012, 6:03 am

CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.
Besides, if the goal of this project is to develop a game strong on content and gameplay more than on art, then the iPhone can work as well as a full PC.


Or I could suggest the people who are funding this recall the original game and want a party-based tactical RPG as promised, and I'm not sure iOS devices will allow for the complexity in controls the game might require. I don't want a very basic bastardized version of Wasteland just because I can carry it on my phone.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby katarn » March 15th, 2012, 6:05 am

CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.

It's such a logic nonsense that I have no words. Where I should play on ipad? Driving the car in traffic jam? Working at the office? Maybe - at home? Ah, no, I have a good PC at home, why should I use ipad, eh?
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 6:25 am

katarn wrote:
CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.

It's such a logic nonsense that I have no words. Where I should play on ipad? Driving the car in traffic jam? Working at the office? Maybe - at home? Ah, no, I have a good PC at home, why should I use ipad, eh?


Once you will have a family you will know that sitting 1-2 hours in front of a pc in the evening after work is just a big no-no.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 6:29 am

enderandrew wrote:
CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.
Besides, if the goal of this project is to develop a game strong on content and gameplay more than on art, then the iPhone can work as well as a full PC.


Or I could suggest the people who are funding this recall the original game and want a party-based tactical RPG as promised, and I'm not sure iOS devices will allow for the complexity in controls the game might require. I don't want a very basic bastardized version of Wasteland just because I can carry it on my phone.


Why do you take it as a given that an iPad/iPhone is not up to providing a "full" Wasteland experience. If you ever played the original, then you know that a fun _and_ complex game does not need a complex interface.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby enderandrew » March 15th, 2012, 6:48 am

CRP wrote:
enderandrew wrote:
CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.
Besides, if the goal of this project is to develop a game strong on content and gameplay more than on art, then the iPhone can work as well as a full PC.


Or I could suggest the people who are funding this recall the original game and want a party-based tactical RPG as promised, and I'm not sure iOS devices will allow for the complexity in controls the game might require. I don't want a very basic bastardized version of Wasteland just because I can carry it on my phone.


Why do you take it as a given that an iPad/iPhone is not up to providing a "full" Wasteland experience. If you ever played the original, then you know that a fun _and_ complex game does not need a complex interface.


Because I've played strategy games and RPGs on the iPhone and find the interface to be particularly lacking.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby katarn » March 15th, 2012, 7:09 am

CRP wrote:
katarn wrote:
CRP wrote:Let us be honest: most of the people funding this project are presumably at least 35 years old and (hopefully) have families and full time jobs. So if there is any chance these people can find the time to play an RPG, it is on a mobile platform such as iOS.

It's such a logic nonsense that I have no words. Where I should play on ipad? Driving the car in traffic jam? Working at the office? Maybe - at home? Ah, no, I have a good PC at home, why should I use ipad, eh?


Once you will have a family you will know that sitting 1-2 hours in front of a pc in the evening after work is just a big no-no.

I have a family, why do you think I haven't? Because I don't think the same way you do? I just wonder where you're gonna sitting with iphone or ipad. Or you're just gonna play 5 minutes/day?
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby Tharkon » March 15th, 2012, 7:20 am

Linux and Android? :)

Common, seriously, iPad? Wtf?
Rather for the iPone then or the OSX.

Not that I'd like quality to be compromised for either iPad, Android or iPhone compatibility so my choice is really Linux or OSX.

I don't care since I use neither but I think you have a large market among the oldschool Linux crowd compared to the Mac-Crowd.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby Conner_36 » March 15th, 2012, 7:56 am

Merin wrote:No console / tablet / phone, please. At least not until AFTER the game is released and a stripped down version can be made THEN.

I think the reason why the console / tablet / phone versions are stripped down is because the publishers, to date there haven't been any hardcore games on these platforms because the devs just aren't there.
I'm all for an iPad version of a hardcore rpg. That will trump any computer if done right because you can cozy up to a couch and stream the audio or video to your apple tv and game on in comfort! Couch > Chair every time :)
yes, I'm an Apple fan... no, I don't hate other platforms... no, I don't own any other systems besides a MBA, an iPhone and and iPad... <sarcasm>but seriously, why would anyone own anything else :)</sarcasm>
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 8:40 am

katarn wrote:
CRP wrote:Once you will have a family you will know that sitting 1-2 hours in front of a pc in the evening after work is just a big no-no.

I have a family, why do you think I haven't? Because I don't think the same way you do? I just wonder where you're gonna sitting with iphone or ipad. Or you're just gonna play 5 minutes/day?


Well, I must admit that the ca. 20 minutes I spend each day on the loo are a large percentage of the time I can spend doing such thing as "playing a game" undisturbed... do not be mean with me just because you are luckier!
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 8:42 am

enderandrew wrote:Because I've played strategy games and RPGs on the iPhone and find the interface to be particularly lacking.


While I may concede that the small screen of an iPhone may be limiting, I do not see what can hamper the development of a nice rpg interface on the iPad. So, maybe it has not been done yet, but there is no reason for that to stay the same forever.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby enderandrew » March 15th, 2012, 8:51 am

CRP wrote:
enderandrew wrote:Because I've played strategy games and RPGs on the iPhone and find the interface to be particularly lacking.


While I may concede that the small screen of an iPhone may be limiting, I do not see what can hamper the development of a nice rpg interface on the iPad. So, maybe it has not been done yet, but there is no reason for that to stay the same forever.


The lack of a keyboard? With a keyboard I can assign controls to a number of keys. With an iOS device I have only touch. You honestly can't see how that might limit the interface?
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby sync-oz » March 15th, 2012, 1:13 pm

Can I also say, fully support plans for a Linux version. I ran Ubuntu on my desktop for a while and it was great, would have kept using it - but game support (Skyrim and Battlefield 3 at the time) was what made me switch back to Windows. It's a chicken and egg sitch but more game support on Linux would be awesome.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby foda500 » March 15th, 2012, 1:17 pm

OSX then Linux.

PS: I voted on the wrong option.
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Re: POLL - Hot Issue: iPad or OSX?

Postby CRP » March 15th, 2012, 2:45 pm

enderandrew wrote:
CRP wrote:
enderandrew wrote:Because I've played strategy games and RPGs on the iPhone and find the interface to be particularly lacking.


While I may concede that the small screen of an iPhone may be limiting, I do not see what can hamper the development of a nice rpg interface on the iPad. So, maybe it has not been done yet, but there is no reason for that to stay the same forever.


The lack of a keyboard? With a keyboard I can assign controls to a number of keys. With an iOS device I have only touch. You honestly can't see how that might limit the interface?


I think I can say that I have played a lot of rpg in my life, but I do not think that wasteland, ultima 7 or planescape torment would suffer with a touch-only interface. Can you name an rpg where keyboard input is critical?
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