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European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby Brother None » April 11th, 2012, 1:55 am

Roachy wrote:What form will this take, will it just be like one of the addicts of the den for the NPC, or just a generic gun, or would it be a rare/powerful one? Finally the location, will it be an actual location or just a building/shop.


You "buy" naming rights, not design rights. inXile will design a bunch of NPCs, weapons, locations etc, and you get to suggest a name with a "I'd like to be a cop" or "I'd like the gun to be a shotgun" and they'll incorporate it if they can. It won't be special, supertough NPCs or high-level items. It won't include naming of entire towns, more like streets or buildings.
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby Roachy » April 11th, 2012, 2:31 am

So in reality to be an NPC is the best option for level of input as it is the one which requires a photograph?
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby Brother None » April 11th, 2012, 2:40 am

If you're only interested in how much customization you can get out of it personally, then yes.
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby Dragoon » April 11th, 2012, 7:08 pm

Hmm, will be there hookers npc's in the game?
I would love to name one of them after a ex-girlfriend of mine. :twisted:
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby Roachy » April 12th, 2012, 3:22 am

Brother None wrote:If you're only interested in how much customization you can get out of it personally, then yes.


I am sorry if you thought I was being aggressive or something, as it is a lot of money I was just clarifying that it wouldnt just be a case of being a corpse or a room or some such.
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby z1ggy » April 12th, 2012, 3:38 pm

One important thing about shipment: PLEASE send it with international tracking number, otherwise there's a high chance of getting lost. For example, use usps priority mail international so we can track it at our local post. (i have some experience dealing with international shipments and stuff, i'm from Argentina).
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby ctankep » April 13th, 2012, 8:09 am

z1ggy wrote:One important thing about shipment: PLEASE send it with international tracking number, otherwise there's a high chance of getting lost. For example, use usps priority mail international so we can track it at our local post. (i have some experience dealing with international shipments and stuff, i'm from Argentina).

Yeah... I've lost a couple of games on the high seas between America and the Old World. That taught me to only order if tracking numbers are available.
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby matthewfarmery » April 16th, 2012, 6:43 am

not sure if this has been posted, but I found a site that explains importing stuff into the UK, (which is where I am)

http://www.dutycalculator.com/help_cent ... d-Kingdom/

also there is a duty calculator there as well, while duty isn't added on computer games, VAT is, and in the UK this is $20

I really hope things can be sorted so I can get my signed collectors edition, if I need to pay extra to inXile to cover the extra cost, so be it, but this has me a bit worried, but I hope things go smoothly, but the above link could be useful,
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Re: European backers, Reward tiers, Duty and Tax hassle

Postby JakBot » April 24th, 2012, 4:55 am

Even if a little irrelevant now, I finally received an email that I sent to a customs officer who forwarded it to our National Board of Customs:

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Tullihallituksesta hetki sitten saamani tiedon mukaan tietokonepelin, pelin keräilyversion, julisteiden, mitallien ja muiden kysymyksessä mainittujen tavaroiden tullausarvot tulee määritellä jokaiselle erikseen. Käytännössä tullee arvioitavaksi paljonko kyseiset/ kyseisen kaltaiset tavarat maksaisivat. Näiden arvojen perusteella kannettaisiin maahantuontiverot.

Kyseessä on mitä ilmeisemmin tietokonepelin ja muiden kysymyksessä mainittujen tavaroiden kuten julisteiden omistusoikeuden luovutus, jos hankkeen rahoitus onnistuu. Tavaran luovutus toteutuu, jos projekti saavuttaa ennalta määritellyn rahamäärän, mutta yksittäisen ostajan panosta ei ole määritelty etukäteen. Tavaran luovutus eli myynti tai hinta siis perustuu rahoituksen onnistumisen ehtoon. Kaupan taloudelliset edellytykset eivät täyty, koska on kyettävä selvittämään mikä tavarasta maksettava hinta olisi ilman ehtoa tai suoritusta. Näin ollen tullausarvoa ei voida määrittää kauppahinnan perusteella (Tullikoodeksi 29 art).

Mikäli tavarat tulevat yhteisöön muun kuin kaupan perusteella ei kauppahintaan perustuva tullausarvon määritysmenetelmä ole käytettävissä vaan tullausarvo pitää määrittää toissijaisilla arvonmääritysmenetelmillä. Tällöin arvo määritetään järjestyksessä ensimmäisellä menetelmällä, jota on mahdollista soveltaa. Toissijaiset arvonmääritysmenetelmät ovat (Tullikoodeksin 30 artikla):

1. samanlaisen tavaran 3 kk sisällä määritetty tullausarvo

2. samankaltaisen tavaran 3 kk sisällä määritetty tullausarvo

3. tuotavien tavaroiden tai samanlaisten tai samankaltaisten tavaroiden yhteisössä tapahtuvan myynnin kauppahinnan perusteella laskettava arvo

4. tuotavien tavaroiden tuotantokustannuksiin perustuva arvo

Mikäli mikään edellä mainituista menetelmistä ei ole mahdollinen, määritetään tullausarvo sovellettuna tullausarvona (Tullikoodeksin 31 artikla) niin, että edellä mainittujen arvonmääritysmenetelmien kriteereitä lievennetään sille tasolle, että arvo saadaan lopulta määritettyä. Se, millaisesta tavarasta on kyse vaikuttaa tietysti siihen, mitkä arvonmääritysmenetelmät juuri tässä tapauksessa voisivat soveltua. Ensimmäinen sovellettu (TK 31 art) arvonmääritysmenetelmä olisi sovellettu kauppa-arvo, jolla tarkoitetaan hintaa, jolla myyjä myisi tavarat yhteisössä olevalle ostajalle, mikäli tuonnin taustalla olisi kauppa.


As I understand it; It states that at least Finnish customs office (Since the articles it recites are EU(or EEC) articles, it's at least plausible to expect them to be valid in other EU countries as well) wouldn't value the items based on the sum of the pledge since it doesn't fully fit in the definition of a trade. Each item (poster, medals, etc.) would also be tolled independently. Then it goes to explain how the value of the items would be determined.
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