POLL - Additions to $30 Tier

[Hobz]

Honestly, the only problem with pledger-only things is when they offer gameplay experiences that aren't available to other people. Unique ranger portraits/icons don't do that.

Totally agree with you !

I think those are great additions. The 30$ tier is pretty sexy now, i hope lots of people will up their pledge

[kungfujoe]

The problem with the ranger portraits is, if you are able to add your own portraits into the game, I don't see whats stopping people from taking all of those kickstarter exclusive portraits and copy and pasting everything to the non-kickstarter version

the same thing that stops you from giving free copies of the DRM-free digital download game to all of your friends. Integrity.

Will everyone be honest? No, of course not, and any content will be available to pirates who know where to share such things, just as it always is.

[saikou]

Oh come on, people!

A few extra portraits is not quite the same as day-one DLC adding more characters and story depth to the game.

[The_A_Drain]

I don't really want anything exclusive other than than the physical stuff, I want (and I want everybody else to have) a .exe that just installs the game and I can play it the day it comes out, and 20 years later and find no difference regardless if I remember my old account logins, installing it on a different machine, whether activation servers are still up, etc.

So long as I can do that I'm all cool, and this doesn't sound like it effects me, I'm not going to vote against because I think it's good that you are looking for a non-gameplay altering thing to give out and hopefully it will increase some $15 pledgers to $30, but at the same time I can't vote for it as it's not something I want, for something to be exclusive to us. I'm going to abstain.

Just a suggestion as well, if you intend to keep things DRM free then these things will inevitably find their way over to the people who didn't pledge. What about embracing that? Maybe put them in the game for everyone, but hide them away somewhere and give out a sneaky code to the backers so the regular guys have to hunt them down and find them for themselves, either in-game or out of the game. Preferable in-game. That's also a nice hark back to the days of cheat codes or secrets, and the backers will be the popular kid with the cheat book

[John]

I don't think it's a big deal either way, but I voted No. As a backer, I'd rather the game be better for everyone. A little nice swag here and there is fine, but I think this makes some small gameplay difference, so I'd prefer everyone get to experience that.

[Smejki]

(we really need more emoticons, possibly involving members of the design team moving their heads rhythmically)

!!!!

[kopi]

I wonder, since this is a single player game, why does one want a "backers only" portrait anyway? Why not release it for everybody. Does a backer care if a he has a portrait that a non backer doesn't have? This is not a reward, this is a bait.

I'm against exclusive content, and since this is a singleplayer game there is nothing to show off except to friends, who will then of course get the drm-free "full version" free of charge from their backer friends. Oh my...

[IchigoRXC]

Oh come on, people!

A few extra portraits is not quite the same as day-one DLC adding more characters and story depth to the game.

I second this. $15 dollars gets you the game for a bargain. Anything above that should have incentive and this way there are no imbalances, just some nice appreciation for those paying out double the base backing price.

[Sub-Human]

I wonder, since this is a single player game, why does one want a "backers only" portrait anyway? Why not release it for everybody. Does a backer care if a he has a portrait that a non backer doesn't have? This is not a reward, this is a bait.

I'm against exclusive content, and since this is a singleplayer game there is nothing to show off except to friends, who will then of course get the drm-free "full version" free of charge from their backer friends. Oh my...

This isn't as much as showing off as satisfying yourself with a larger array of Ranger portraits.

[God is Dog backwards]

While cosmetic items are harmless, in principle I strongly object to 'exclusive content'. It's part of the plague that's made modern gaming so shitty - the DLC, the drive to squeeze every last bit of money out of the consumer. So while this particular thing is harmless, in principle I just feel the game should be the game - don't split it up or have extra bits for different consumers. So my vote is no.

[scout]

I tell you what will happen if you do this:

As soon as there is a version that differs from the standard version, people are going to pirate it instead of buying it. No matter how insignificant the addition. It may give you a bump in kickstarter, but a loss on release.

And i'll tell you those people would pirate it anyway. I understand your point of view but no matter what game you make some idiots will pirate it. Lets all make a commitment as backers to not do that. lets show some character, I don't want anyone touching this game because we need it to be a success so that they'll make more games. A few people will pirate yes, but I won't. Whos to say Brian can't contact the same people (us) that bought this game when hes making his next. He might lose money from pirates but not having to pay a publisher and having an already fanatic fanbase, + new customers who never pirate games, equals enough money for profit.

[Dexter]

I'm in for considerably more than 30$ and I don't really like any kind of "Exclusive" content or even the idea of it, it just propagates this type of retarded marketing: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/02/buying ... t-you-870/ and just pisses people off or drives them to piracy or similar.

In this case it might be "just" a skill or a few portrait pictures... but it's nonetheless about the same "Exclusivity" kind of idea/mentality and basically doesn't let everyone experience the (full) game for promotional reasons only. Pre-Order our game now and receive X and Y!
Just give everyone the full damn game and add additional physical stuff or whatever if you want to play marketing.

[kopi]

I wonder, since this is a single player game, why does one want a "backers only" portrait anyway? Why not release it for everybody. Does a backer care if a he has a portrait that a non backer doesn't have? This is not a reward, this is a bait.

I'm against exclusive content, and since this is a singleplayer game there is nothing to show off except to friends, who will then of course get the drm-free "full version" free of charge from their backer friends. Oh my...

This isn't as much as showing off as satisfying yourself with a larger array of Ranger portraits.

... and you are against sharing them with everybody?

[ThePlanner]

I wonder, since this is a single player game, why does one want a "backers only" portrait anyway? Why not release it for everybody. Does a backer care if a he has a portrait that a non backer doesn't have? This is not a reward, this is a bait.

I'm against exclusive content, and since this is a singleplayer game there is nothing to show off except to friends, who will then of course get the drm-free "full version" free of charge from their backer friends. Oh my...

This isn't as much as showing off as satisfying yourself with a larger array of Ranger portraits.

... and you are against sharing them with everybody?

We are already getting backer-exclusive content, though, in the unique and quirky skill. I don't think that any tiers should be excluded from game content that other backers receive. I think that the additional character portraits should be a $3M stretch goal. That way everyone benefits if we meet that goal and some $15 backers will increase their pledge to help reach that goal.

[kasra5004]

Are you serios, add it or not, anyone who chooses 30$ tier or upgrades his tier doesn't do it for prtraits, 15 bucks is jyst too much for that, they do it for other stuff. So, it doesn't really matter!

[zantaff]

I love the idea of any extra cosmetic gameplay elements that make me feel all special inside when I know, as a backer, I'm getting something that 'normal' people are not.

However, I think instead of trying to get $15 pledgers to move up to $30, there should be an incentive of $50 to move up to a $65 tier. I think that people that pledged $15 just pledged a little so as to help, while those that pledged $50 are more invested in the game, and more likely to move up if there are more incentives. Also I assume they probably have more money to spend.

[Hobz]

I only signed up for the forums to vote against this. It's the same kind of "exclusive collectors bonus" type thing I'm so tired of seeing from big publishers to squeeze every extra dime out of you.

Yes, I've only dropped $15 on Wasteland 2 and won't be getting this content. Honestly, there is no digital "bonus" I can think of that is going to make me want to upgrade to $30. If I were going to upgrade at all, I'd just do the $50 big box package. All this is managing to do is making me feel less satisfied with the $15 I've already pledged.

I don't think it's a big deal either way, but I voted No. As a backer, I'd rather the game be better for everyone. A little nice swag here and there is fine, but I think this makes some small gameplay difference, so I'd prefer everyone get to experience that.

There is no gameplay difference between versions, you won't have less fun with your game if you don't have the extra few portraits, especially in a game where you can import your own.

If anything, the new sexy 30$ tier is likely to help raising MOAR money for the game, giving YOU (and everyone else) a better experience.

[krellen]

As long as there's a reasonably easy way to add custom portraits to the game, having backers get a few extra from the start really shouldn't be controversial at all. (Though this Will probably mean those portraits will eventually get out to the general public anyway, so even less controversy!)

[kasra5004]

Yeah, and also some of the 15$ dollar pledgers are so happy about getting the game that cheap, they refuse to give it up.

And also, sorry for the languag, the portraits aren't worth any shit! So,no one would double their plege just to get a few portrait which he can add himself!

[Jack Dandy]

I wouldn't mind it, since I pledged over 30$.

However, some people might feel cheated out. I know I would.

And since the 15$ donators make the bulk of the current funds, I don't think it will be a nice thing to do.